daycare provider mileage

[grandmabee]

daycare provider recieves food program reimbursed and takes the standard meal allowance of 1.17 for ea breakfast,2.18 for ea lunch and dinner etc. my question is can she deduct miles for going to grocery stores where she also buys the supplies and other household items? She does keep a mileage log.

thanks for any help

[GeneInAlabama]

Sounds like business miles to me. I wouldn't think that the standard meal allowance would include the expense of going after the food. If I'm wrong, I would let the auditor tell me at the time of the audit. After all, we aren't talking big bucks here.

[kcjenkins]

Question is, does she make separate, extra trips to do that shopping? Or, highly more likely, she buys her own groceries at the same time. So no extra expense.

[grandmabee]

Question is, does she make separate, extra trips to do that shopping? Or, highly more likely, she buys her own groceries at the same time. So no extra expense.

no separate trips.... buys along with own groceries

she has mileage of 8024. lives about 5 miles out of town

this is a large daycare operation. income from daycare is 52,000 then I thought well maybe she would get the same % as she does on the 8829 but think I'm reaching on that one.

[kcjenkins]

Yep, since there is no extra travel involved, there's no business cost.

[MN2V]

I do several day care providers and my thinking is that they go

get grocies for the business and if they pick up something for the

family that is immaterial. Anyone in day care knows how time-consuming

all aspects of the business are. Give her the miles.

[kcjenkins]

Oh, gee, I forgot, if the business is hard, we get to ignore the tax rules and give them a break. How could I have forgotten that one?

[BulldogTom]

Oh, gee, I forgot, if the business is hard, we get to ignore the tax rules and give them a break. How could I have forgotten that one?

That could have come out of Jainen's computer. Must be getting to crunch time at KC's office.

I think you need a chocolate break KC?

Tom

Lodi, CA

[kcjenkins]

You are right, Tom. I really do need a break. It's hard, carrying the whole thing, and also dealing with my husband, who is frustrated that he can not do anything to help, so he 'tries' to help and, like a 4 yr old who wants to help, the help often makes things worse. Then he sulks. Sorry, MN2V, did not mean to sound mean. It's getting late in the season, and the pressure is piling up, it's spring break week so the grandkids are running around my office making a mess, my son and DIL are fighting, and I'm just plain tired of everything.

Think I'll take a break and visit Farmwille!

[BulldogTom]

KC,

My heart is aching for you right now. I was just trying to be funny, but I did not realize the pressure you are under. Let me know if there is anything I can do for you.

Tom

Lodi, CA

[kcjenkins]

Thanks, Tom, that is sweet of you. I'll be OK. it's just a bad day today! Now, if you were HERE, I'd heap about 10 file folders on you, and put you to work, and that would REALLY help. :lol:

[Daune/CA]

You are right, Tom. I really do need a break. It's hard, carrying the whole thing, and also dealing with my husband, who is frustrated that he can not do anything to help, so he 'tries' to help and, like a 4 yr old who wants to help, the help often makes things worse. Then he sulks. Sorry, MN2V, did not mean to sound mean. It's getting late in the season, and the pressure is piling up, it's spring break week so the grandkids are running around my office making a mess, my son and DIL are fighting, and I'm just plain tired of everything.

Think I'll take a break and visit Farmwille!

Sounds to me that it is time for "ASAP" "ALWAYS SAY A PRAYER"

[Gail in Virginia]

No matter how hectic it gets, you need to remember to take care of yourself along with everyone else. You mean a lot to us here on this board, KC, and I hope that you can take enough time to hug the grandkids, love your husband and tune out the fighting so you can de-stress yourself. And remember, de-stress can be arranged to spell desserts! So have a frikken banana pie and smile :P

[kcjenkins]

Now, that sounds like a great idea!