EIN for SSA-1099

[Abby Normal]

ATX realized their programming blunder and you are no longer required to enter an EIN for each group of forms that have withholding. It was a tremendously stupid idea to begin with because most people have multiple W2's, 1099s, etc., and the efile already contains the EIN for each W2, 1099, etc.

I'd love to know what the concept was behind this idea to begin with, as I can't see any problem that it was solving.

[HV Ken]

31 minutes ago, Abby Normal said:

ATX realized their programming blunder and you are no longer required to enter an EIN for each group of forms that have withholding. It was a tremendously stupid idea to begin with because most people have multiple W2's, 1099s, etc., and the efile already contains the EIN for each W2, 1099, etc.

I'd love to know what the concept was behind this idea to begin with, as I can't see any problem that it was solving.

How did you get this info?

I am guessing their is an update coming to correct this?

[Abby Normal]

I heard it on the ATX users facebook page, so when 1040 updated yesterday, I tested it and there was no red error.

[TKTax]

I am still getting the error on 1099-R line. I have multiple 1099-R. I am using all zeros

[Abby Normal]

1 minute ago, TKTax said:

I am still getting the error on 1099-R line. I have multiple 1099-R. I am using all zeros

I didn't check 1099R's, just Social Security withholding. Is it a red error? If not I'd ignore it.

I was working in my test client return yesterday and was getting a ton of blue errors for overrides on banking products that I don't even use. I just unchecked the Overrides filter so I didn't have to look at them.

[schirallicpa]

I'm still getting the error today.  I have SS income and other retirement income.  This is just repetitive and senseless

 

[TKTax]

Sadly till a red error, but this from the ATX message board:

"Just spoke to a support rep, they are aware of this, IRS is updating their system She said , as per the IRS, the resolution is to put in all zeros into that number

There will be an update shortly"

per NYTaxLady

[BulldogTom]

Any update on this?   I just did a couple returns and it is pulling a red error for all my 1099Rs.   Both these returns have multiple 1099Rs associated with each having withholding, so there is no single EIN to put on that line.   And the EIN is on the input form.   This is a terribly poorly thought out idea.

Tom
Modesto, CA

[ETax847]

What about when there are multiple 1099R's, how do you handle that?

[Abby Normal]

1 hour ago, ETax847 said:

What about when there are multiple 1099R's, how do you handle that?

Just pick your favorite 1099R and enter that EIN. If they don't fix this, I'll try linking the EIN from the 1st 1099R to the line 25 worksheet, just to avoid the annoyance.

[Dhawk]

With SSA there is only one EIN each. With 1099Rs there can be several 1099s with a total for withholding. Using an average or total for EIN probably won't work. Maybe Customizing Master forms with zeros everywhere?

 

[M7047]

I just updated forms and the programs. It's still doing it. I just entered zeros to get rid of it.

 

  

[Dan]

So are you saying we are to enter the Social Security Administration number?  On the chart that I see on this site it has above the column EIN (Filer); EIN (Spouse).  

When I did a check return it also gave me a error which said (IRS e-file limitation:  Each withholding amount must have an associated EIN. 

Enter 00-0000000 (9 zeroes) if an EIN is not available).

[jklcpa]

28 minutes ago, Dan said:

So are you saying we are to enter the Social Security Administration number?  On the chart that I see on this site it has above the column EIN (Filer); EIN (Spouse).  

When I did a check return it also gave me a error which said (IRS e-file limitation:  Each withholding amount must have an associated EIN. 

Enter 00-0000000 (9 zeroes) if an EIN is not available).

The worksheet is actually asking for an EIN of (one of) the payer(s), but if you don't have that, have more than one, and especially since the worksheet is NOT sent with the e-filing, I'd suggest just entering all zeroes and move on through the processing. 

[Jack from Ohio]

We master formed the EIN for Social Security.

[Pacun]

5 hours ago, Jack from Ohio said:

We master formed the EIN for Social Security.

or zeros for that matter, right?

[Bill Griffith]

Been using 9 zeros and accepted.

 

[Larry Robertson]

I got this error today 3/15, how is it not fixed by now?

[Pacun]

13 minutes ago, Larry Robertson said:

I got this error today 3/15, how is it not fixed by now?

Did you enter 000000000 or nothing?

[Lynn EA USTCP in Louisiana]

It's not fixed because they know we could input 00-0000000 instead of a real number, and it would go through

[Larry Robertson]

I used (EIN) (52-6004813) because of this thread.  That worked but i would think this would be fixed by now.

[Pacun]

I think I would use the payer that withheld the most money.

I have been lucky that I have had only one distribution for the husband and another for the wife. 

[JackieCPA]

I'm glad that the actual EIN is on here!

I have been using 00-0000000 all season (all got accepted!) 

But, It is nice to have the actual one

[ampCT]

Somewhere in all those messages, it says if an organization doesn't have an EIN you can use all zeros.  I was unable to find the EIN for SSA, so I've been using zeros.  No pushback yet. 

Thank you to Max W for the real one!