ILLMAS Posted September 14, 2020 Report Posted September 14, 2020 TP delivers baked goods to all of their customer assigned to their route, TP paid $60K for the route and has taken amortization of $23K = $37K basis. The bakery they delivered for, bought back the route for $130K and resold the route back to the TP (minus a couple of stores) for $100K, TP received a check for $30K. Option One Original Cost $60K Amortization -23K Basis $37K Sales Price $130K Less Basis $37K Gain $93K New Route $100K on books TP pays taxes on $93K Option Two (trade-in) Original Cost $60K Amortization -23K Trade-in $40K New Basis $77K Sales Price $130K Gain $53K New Route $77K on books It seems option two is more beneficial to the TP, but can one do a trade-in on goodwill? Thanks MAS Quote
Lion EA Posted September 15, 2020 Report Posted September 15, 2020 If you're talking about a like-kind exchange, isn't that for real estate only? TCJA? 1 Quote
ILLMAS Posted September 15, 2020 Author Report Posted September 15, 2020 I was envisioning more like a vehicle trade-in, not an like-kind exchange which will probably net the same results. Quote
Lee B Posted September 15, 2020 Report Posted September 15, 2020 10 hours ago, Lion EA said: If you're talking about a like-kind exchange, isn't that for real estate only? TCJA? You are correct, the TCJA limited like kind exchanges, which is what a trade-in is, to real property only. 3 Quote
Lion EA Posted September 15, 2020 Report Posted September 15, 2020 A vehicle trade-in is a like-kind exchange, but like-kind exchanges are limited to real property only -- with thanks to cbslee for confirming my memory of that TCJA change. You're probably talking about 2019 or 2020, so definitely under the TCJA change. Quote
DANRVAN Posted September 15, 2020 Report Posted September 15, 2020 16 hours ago, ILLMAS said: $130K and resold the route back to the TP (minus a couple of stores) for $100K, TP received a check for $30K. Look at the substance of the transaction. The bakery reduced taxpayers route by a few stores and compensated him $30,000. That is how I would treat it. They went through some extra hoops to get there for legal/admin purposes, but they still have the route minus a few stores + a check for $30,000. 1 Quote
ILLMAS Posted September 15, 2020 Author Report Posted September 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, DANRVAN said: Look at the substance of the transaction. The bakery reduced taxpayers route by a few stores and compensated him $30,000. That is how I would treat it. They went through some extra hoops to get there for legal/admin purposes, but they still have the route minus a few stores + a check for $30,000. Interesting.... Let's see if more people agree with this. Quote
Lion EA Posted September 15, 2020 Report Posted September 15, 2020 My first thought was a sale of an asset and a purchase of an asset. But, I see the step-transaction that Danrvan's explaining. 1 Quote
DANRVAN Posted September 15, 2020 Report Posted September 15, 2020 28 minutes ago, ILLMAS said: Let's see if more people agree Are you aware of the "substance-over-form doctrine"? Why would you not use it to your client's advantage? Looks to me like you would have a gain of about $12,000 if basis is allocated on 30,000 / 130,000 figures. 2 Quote
jklcpa Posted September 15, 2020 Report Posted September 15, 2020 46 minutes ago, DANRVAN said: Look at the substance of the transaction. The bakery reduced taxpayers route by a few stores and compensated him $30,000. That is how I would treat it. They went through some extra hoops to get there for legal/admin purposes, but they still have the route minus a few stores + a check for $30,000. 31 minutes ago, ILLMAS said: Interesting.... Let's see if more people agree with this. Yes, I agree with Dan that if the client still has the same route with a reduction of several customers, then I'd say company bought back those several customers for the $30K. My answer would be different if this was not substantially the same route though. I'd prorate the cost, amortization, and remaining basis saying that what was bought back was 30/130 or ~23.08% of the route and report that against the $30K proceeds so that the client would report ~ $21, 460 of gain (30K - 8540 of basis). What I wouldn't do is frontload an entire $30K of basis against this sale and report -0- gain. 4 Quote
DANRVAN Posted September 15, 2020 Report Posted September 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, jklcpa said: $21, 460 of gain That is correct, I was thinking roughly 22,000 instead of 12,000 as I posted above. There are other possible methods of allocating such as sales or volume per store. 1 Quote
DANRVAN Posted September 15, 2020 Report Posted September 15, 2020 31 minutes ago, Lion EA said: step-transaction that's it, the step-transaction-doctrine 1 Quote
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