Possi Posted July 12, 2018 Report Posted July 12, 2018 In 2005, I began depreciating a rental: He purchased it for 230,378. Land was 58,000. Depreciation should have been based on 172,378. I depreciated 172,378 MINUS 58,000, leaving only 154,378 basis for depreciation. Is the 3115 (adjustment for depreciation) only allowed if NO depreciation was taken? Or can I use it to adjust the depreciation that was allowed? Quote
Lee B Posted July 12, 2018 Report Posted July 12, 2018 Yes, you can use 3115 to correct the depreciation that was deducted, either way, whether it was over depreciated or under depreciated. 2 Quote
Evan S. Golar Posted July 12, 2018 Report Posted July 12, 2018 Wouldn't this also require, in addition to the 3115, a 481(a) cumulative adjustment on an expense line? 2 Quote
Possi Posted July 12, 2018 Author Report Posted July 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Lion EA said: Form 3115 Thanks for this response, Rita. I have done this at least once before, so I was surprised when the new preparer said it could only be used if NO dep'n was taken. This client has had to move to a CA preparer, and I am going to send her some documentation to support this. She is telling me that I must amend and that the depreciation missed will be depreciation lost. Here is what I found, letting her know she can do this: https://taxmap.irs.gov/taxmap/pubs/p946-008.htm Specifically: Changes in depreciation that are not a change in method of accounting (and may only be made on an amended return) include the following. An adjustment in the useful life of a depreciable asset for which depreciation is determined under section 167. A change in use of an asset in the hands of the same taxpayer. Making a late depreciation election or revoking a timely valid depreciation election (including the election not to deduct the special depreciation allowance). If you elected not to claim any special depreciation allowance, a change from not claiming to claiming the special depreciation allowance is a revocation of the election and is not an accounting method change. Generally, you must get IRS approval to make a late depreciation election or revoke a depreciation election. You must submit a request for a letter ruling to make a late election or revoke an election. Any change in the placed in service date of a depreciable asset. Quote
Lion EA Posted July 12, 2018 Report Posted July 12, 2018 I think depreciating the wrong amount for two years is an impermissible method and can use Form 3115, but I haven't had a client need that so haven't researched it. You've done a good job with IRS info. And, you're being a good person to explain your results to your client and her new tax preparer. If the new preparer is filing the returns now, you can wash your hands of it; you've done all you can do. 2 Quote
Possi Posted July 12, 2018 Author Report Posted July 12, 2018 34 minutes ago, Evan S. Golar said: Wouldn't this also require, in addition to the 3115, a 481(a) cumulative adjustment on an expense line? Yes. Page 4 of the 3115, line 26 is where the cumulative adjustment would go, and flow to the tax return accordingly. 1 Quote
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