JJStephens Posted February 25, 2016 Report Posted February 25, 2016 In late 2015 my client (a church) paid rent (twice) for a family in the community that had suffered a serious calamity. I feel reasonably certain a 1099 to the landlord is required; I'm not aware of any exception for benevolence rent payments. The landlord insists a 1099 is not appropriate and has refused for months to provide a W-9. BTW, I re-instructed my client to withhold future 1099-able payments to any payee until they have a W-9 in-hand. I'm assuming the landlord's refusal is probably the result of under-reporting rental income, but in this case it doesn't make much sense to refuse to provide the W-9 and accept a 1099. I would think the landlord would want to show at least some income and two months worth of rent could be easily absorbed into that. Yes, I know (s)he is legally obligated to report it all. That's not my problem as landlord is not my client--I'm simply stating what I assume to be true about the motive for refusing to provide a W-9. I suppose there could also be some issues of not wanting to show up on a government agency's radar--perhaps dodging a warrant or could be an illegal, er, I mean undocumented worker--no, I mean illegal. Do any of you know of a reason why issuing a 1099 could be avoided in these circumstances? Any suggestions about compelling the landlord to comply? Quote
kcjenkins Posted February 25, 2016 Report Posted February 25, 2016 I'd just do it, a paper filed 1099, with his name and address and 'refused' in the box for SSN. 1 Quote
michaelmars Posted February 25, 2016 Report Posted February 25, 2016 The church was under no legal authority to pay the rent, perhaps the landlord considered it a gift. Honestly, if you go ahead and file you better have written permission from your client to do so, I would hate for the tenant to get evicted and then blame you. If its not a "business expense" to the church are they even obligated to issue a 1099? [I have no idea but should be considered] 3 Quote
kcjenkins Posted February 25, 2016 Report Posted February 25, 2016 Good points, Michael. I think you are right, the church did not pay this as a business expense, it was actually a gift to the tenant. So no need for a 1099 from them. 2 Quote
Roberts Posted February 25, 2016 Report Posted February 25, 2016 8 minutes ago, kcjenkins said: Good points, Michael. I think you are right, the church did not pay this as a business expense, it was actually a gift to the tenant. So no need for a 1099 from them. I agree. I wouldn't expect a 1099 to be produced. IMO the Church would consider it a gift to the tenant. 3 Quote
JJStephens Posted February 26, 2016 Author Report Posted February 26, 2016 I wrestled with those same thoughts. It is a gift to the tenant, but it is a payment of a fee to the landlord. That would mitigate in favor of a 1099. However, it was a substitute payment on behalf of an individual who is not required to issue a 1099 thus mitigating against needing to issue one. In my mind, the second argument is more compelling. I've spent more than an hour searching the net and about half a dozen IRS pubs for some guidance and found nothing. I think I'm going to go with your counsel & my gut. Thanks, all! 2 Quote
kcjenkins Posted February 26, 2016 Report Posted February 26, 2016 Right. It's a payment to the landlord, but NOT a payment of a fee, or rent, because they did not owe the landlord. Quote
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