ILLMAS Posted March 30, 2015 Report Posted March 30, 2015 1. You tell the marketplace people I am going to make less this year so I qualify for a subsidy. 2. Some people overstate their income to avoid getting insurance through public aid/Medicaid. 2 Quote
Pacun Posted March 30, 2015 Report Posted March 30, 2015 Two things that I learned is that: 1, ACA is only beneficial to the people who make a lot of money (they have insurance anyways) or the people that makes little money, they will get cheap or free insurance. 2. Besides EIC, ACA will motive people to under report income. 2 Quote
Kea Posted April 2, 2015 Report Posted April 2, 2015 I'm sorry, Pacun, but # 1 is not entirely true. Before ACA there were rich people that could not get insurance. If you had to get insurance on your own (retired, self employed, employer did not provide insurance, etc.) and had a "pre-existing" condition, you could not get insurance at any price. I'm sure the rules were different in different states. My "pre-existing" condition was a FALSE positive on a test. 2 Quote
Pacun Posted April 2, 2015 Report Posted April 2, 2015 I'm sorry, Pacun, but # 1 is not entirely true. Before ACA there were rich people that could not get insurance. If you had to get insurance on your own (retired, self employed, employer did not provide insurance, etc.) and had a "pre-existing" condition, you could not get insurance at any price. I'm sure the rules were different in different states. My "pre-existing" condition was a FALSE positive on a test. I am talking about my scope while I prepare taxes, and when I prepare taxes I don't ask about pre-existing conditions. Quote
jklcpa Posted April 2, 2015 Report Posted April 2, 2015 I would disagree with Pacun's first statement also because some of my well-to-do clients are also paying the .9% additional Medicare tax that is helping to fund the ACA. 2 Quote
Kea Posted April 2, 2015 Report Posted April 2, 2015 Thankfully, insurance companies can no longer deny people with pre-existing conditions from getting health insurance (just one of the provisions of the new law that does not affect the tax return). 3 Quote
Abby Normal Posted April 2, 2015 Report Posted April 2, 2015 My finacee is taking IRA distributions so she doesn't slip into Medicaid territory. We can't get married because she would lose her PTC and go from paying 70/mo to 500/mo. I dropped my old grandfathered in plan for a new plan because the premiums were much lower and it offered better coverage, but with a higher deductible. I don't care because I'm just looking for catastrophic coverage anyway. Quote
Terry D EA Posted April 2, 2015 Report Posted April 2, 2015 I've learned that no matter what the income level is, the insurance is always affordable. Well, by the calculations anyway. And, I've learned that it appears that our freedom of choice is being infringed upon by being forced to have health insurance coverage. Like jmdaviscpa, I had to put my wife on my insurance with my employer. Cost me 642.00 per month. Better coverage than that offered at the market place for more money. Finally, I've learned that the ACA isn't going away and will only get worse and in the grand scheme of things we will all be paying for something that has limited or no useful value. Deductibles so high with coverages so low, how good is it? Quote
Jack from Ohio Posted April 2, 2015 Report Posted April 2, 2015 Two things I have learned: 1. The election of 2012 granted me 15 years of job security. 2. The reason for the job security stinks to high heaven. 3 Quote
Pacun Posted April 2, 2015 Report Posted April 2, 2015 I've learned that no matter what the income level is, the insurance is always affordable. Well, by the calculations anyway. And, I've learned that it appears that our freedom of choice is being infringed upon by being forced to have health insurance coverage. Like jmdaviscpa, I had to put my wife on my insurance with my employer. Cost me 642.00 per month. Better coverage than that offered at the market place for more money. Finally, I've learned that the ACA isn't going away and will only get worse and in the grand scheme of things we will all be paying for something that has limited or no useful value. Deductibles so high with coverages so low, how good is it? So, if I am not mistaken, you are in the middle of number 1 (not rich and no poor). So my comment is exactly what you are saying, it affects people like you and me who are in the middle. Quote
Abby Normal Posted April 2, 2015 Report Posted April 2, 2015 A lot of people were paying for useless health care plans before and having to file for bankruptcy even though they were 'insured.' Health insurance companies need to go back to being nonprofit like they were in the 70s. No reason to have shareholders earning dividends off our struggle to be insured. 3 Quote
Terry D EA Posted April 7, 2015 Report Posted April 7, 2015 (edited) So, if I am not mistaken, you are in the middle of number 1 (not rich and no poor). So my comment is exactly what you are saying, it affects people like you and me who are in the middle. Yep you got it! I gripe each and every time my wife pays our cell phone bill too. Have to pay enough taxes on that thing so someone else who should be less fortunate than me can get one free! Even though they drive cars that are nicer and cost more than mine, I hope they are glad that I have worked so hard for their benefits. Another thanks for being in the middle. Edited April 7, 2015 by Terry D Quote
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