TAXMAN Posted February 18, 2014 Report Posted February 18, 2014 Noticed that ATX puts a sid # on 8879 almost instantly upon creation of the 8879 or if the 8879 rolls up from b4. This # contains a date. If tp doesn't sign for 10 days later makes the date wrong on the SID #. After client signs 8879 i go put the date in. Does not change the SID#. Seems that some states won't accept anything older than 2 days. Anybody know IRS position in this. It would like I am holding returns but in realty not. What are the thoughts here? Quote
clay Posted February 18, 2014 Report Posted February 18, 2014 My software will not give me the sid# until after the IRS accepts the return. I either have to write the number in on the 8879 or print the sid# and attach to the 8879. Quote
Jack from Ohio Posted February 19, 2014 Report Posted February 19, 2014 Noticed that ATX puts a sid # on 8879 almost instantly upon creation of the 8879 or if the 8879 rolls up from b4. This # contains a date. If tp doesn't sign for 10 days later makes the date wrong on the SID #. After client signs 8879 i go put the date in. Does not change the SID#. Seems that some states won't accept anything older than 2 days. Anybody know IRS position in this. It would like I am holding returns but in realty not. What are the thoughts here? I have not even looked at a sid #. Neither did I ever look at DCN #. efiled 650+ at the firm with no SID conflicts as posted by others. I guess I am just missing the boat? Quote
Tax Prep by Deb Posted February 19, 2014 Report Posted February 19, 2014 Real common for California to reject. I just recreate after the reject and resend. A bit annoying but otherwise work ok. Quote
joanmcq Posted February 19, 2014 Report Posted February 19, 2014 I've had the CA reject even when I created the efile right before the client came over to sign, sent the fed right away and the state a few hours later. CA's 'Julian date' thing is really starting to piss me off. Quote
Jack from Ohio Posted February 19, 2014 Report Posted February 19, 2014 Real common for California to reject. I just recreate after the reject and resend. A bit annoying but otherwise work ok. I've had the CA reject even when I created the efile right before the client came over to sign, sent the fed right away and the state a few hours later. CA's 'Julian date' thing is really starting to piss me off. That is a CA thing. If the date is not within the last 72 hours before submitting, it will reject. Quote
joanmcq Posted February 19, 2014 Report Posted February 19, 2014 The date on the 8879 was the day before and the efile was created the day before and just for $@1+$ and giggles I recreated about an hour before they came in to sign, so it was all done within 24 hours..still rejected. I'd had several rejects before & never had to change the date on the 8879 in past years, just recreate. So this was a test. I know it's .CA. I've still just about had it. Quote
Jack from Ohio Posted February 19, 2014 Report Posted February 19, 2014 The date on the 8879 was the day before and the efile was created the day before and just for $@1+$ and giggles I recreated about an hour before they came in to sign, so it was all done within 24 hours..still rejected. I'd had several rejects before & never had to change the date on the 8879 in past years, just recreate. So this was a test. I know it's .CA. I've still just about had it. Mine have always been the date in the CA efile info screen. Not on the 8879. Quote
Tax Prep by Deb Posted February 19, 2014 Report Posted February 19, 2014 Unless the return changesnto reject, it keeps the same sid from the moment you first open the return, thus the problem with ca time stamp. It doesn't matter how many times you recreate the e-file, you have to change something, resave, get the reject message then recreate. That is what I started doing for returns that I started more than 2 days earlier. Quote
JMovichEA Posted February 19, 2014 Report Posted February 19, 2014 You can check the SID when the e-file is created. Many times the Fed and CA are the same, so I have the open the return discard and re-add the CA-Info page and recreate the CA e-file. Quote
taxtrio Posted February 19, 2014 Report Posted February 19, 2014 Can you add the 9325 to the return and view the SID# there? Pam Quote
joanmcq Posted February 19, 2014 Report Posted February 19, 2014 From the time you start the return? No wonder mine have been all out of whack. What a PITA Quote
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